Topic on User talk:Les

Do you want me to upload photos of the Japanese version of The Last Hope? As I said, it doesn't confirm anything about neither Atlantis nor Mu continent. Just wondering if it's ok to upload every pages of it for copyright issues.

I also checked the comments by Matt Frank, and it says a "new" story, and he never says anything about connectivity to the Heisei trilogy.

Within Matt's comments, he briefly notes the connectivity of the Dark Horse series to the Heisei trilogy, but NOT about The Last Hope.

https://wikizilla.org/wiki/File:Matt_Frank_comments_The_Last_Hope.jpeg

So, you don't even provide explanation to revert?

Would you please reply to me first?

I'm waiting for you to reply...

I was going to reply to you here, where I don't have a character limit (and where you're actively spamming me). I'm happy to address your concerns, but me not having the inhuman typing speeds to give you a proper response right away doesn't give you license to keep removing the information.

Matt Frank intended the comic to be a possible explanation for how the Heisei Gamera came to be. I'd think that much is clear from what the comic shows: an ancient civilization with a close relationship to the Earth's mana who engineer Gameras and commune with them using magatamas, but are ravaged by monsters and leave behind Iris, a stone tablet on Gamera's shell, and a graveyard of Gamera skeletons on the seafloor. Regarding one of the points you brought up in your edit summaries, I don't see how the lack of an Atlantis namedrop is damning when it is consistently called "a super-ancient civilization" in the movies themselves. The only time it's connected to Atlantis is in the first movie, when Kusanagi says that the civilization was the basis for the Atlantis legends.

Now, you are correct that it's not explicitly "canon", in the sense that it's not guaranteed to be the way history actually played out. Frank admits as such in one of his YouTube videos. However, this is the same level of canonicity as all of the other conflicting Heisei tie-ins which you don't seem to take issue with. This site's incarnation pages factor in alternate timelines as long as they present themselves as connected to the mainline media (like the Monsterverse novelizations, which often contradict the movies).

As for the other point you brought up, I don't know why the comic starting out as self-published should affect how we regard it. It has been officially adopted by Kadokawa, who've allowed it to be issued with Arrow Video's first run of Gamera discs and translated into Japanese by Phase Six. The packaging for the former reads, "the first-ever English-language printing of the prequel comic The Last Hope." So, I feel there's a plenty good case for it.

Finally, thanks for replying.

>>where you're actively spamming me

If you've told me to wait, I would have done so without any problems. I may have looked like spamming you, but from my perspective, I thought you were completely neglecting me and kept reverting without any explanation. So there was a misunderstanding between us, I apologize for that.

>>all of the other conflicting Heisei tie-ins which you don't seem to take issue with

I don't have problem as long as their connectivity to the trilogy is officially mentioned; in this case The Last Hope lacked one AT LEAST on the book I have. Except for Legend, Gamera: The Council of Gigantic Bio-Creatures, The Last Hope, all those were introduced to bear connectivity to the trilogy within the Heisei Gamera Perfection (p.287), regardless of canonicity. And I also have the book which includes the Legend, and it certainly looks like it has a connectivity.

And Gamera: The Council of Gigantic Bio-Creatures was published by Kaneko and others, so I see no problem to see it as a canon. (The Heisei Gamera Perfection doesn't mention about Gamera: The Council of Gigantic Bio-Creatures and Legend.)